Sunday 18 October 2020

SEXISM

 Hello, I wish you all good holidays and a good rest!

To fight against sexism, a movement has been created on social networks. On Monday, September 14, the girls had to go to school in outfits found to be "provocative" to feel stronger and to send a message. 

What do you think?  Did you get involved in the movement and why/why not?

20 comments:

  1. Hello.
    To my mind, this movement is a good way to fight against sexism. Indeed, girls should be free to wear what they want, without being judged.
    I didn't get involved in the movement because I don't have the necessary courage to be "provocative".

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  2. To begin with, I personally hadn't heard about this movement before that question. I think they did that to show that girls are not going to change their way of dressing because of some people that harass them when they wear certain "provocative" outfits. As for the message sent I think it was clear enough for people to understand it, as I did just reading the question. And as of the question of empowering women I think this movement helps, as it's a real life movement and it makes people speak about it more than when it's left to social networks only. However, it shouldn't stop there and it mustn't be considered as a one-time thing, followed by a few girls, but it must have repercussions on people's mind. As for myself besides not having heard of this movement, I'm a boy, so I don't feel concerned by the movement and I didn't get involved in it, which doesn't prevent me from supporting the cause itself.

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    1. Correction in capital letters: To begin with, I personally hadn't heard about this movement before that question. I think they did that to show that girls are not going to change THE WAY THEY DRESSED because of some people that harass them when they wear certain "provocative" outfits. As for the message sent I think it was clear enough for people to understand it, as I did just reading the question. REGARDING the question of empowering women I think this movement helps, as it's a real life movement and it makes people speak about it more than when it's left to social networks only. However, it shouldn't stop there and it mustn't be considered as a one-time thing, followed by a few girls, but it must have repercussions on people's mind. As for myself besides not having heard of this movement, I'm a boy, so I don't feel concerned by the movement and I didn't get involved in it, which doesn't prevent me from supporting the cause itself.

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  3. Hello,

    So of course I saw the movement, especially on social networks and I was a bit confused. First of all, many girls were angry because at school, boys can wear shorts and not them. I agree with them, girls have the right to wear everything they wanted like boys. Because it's just a question of equality between girls and boys. But I think that we have to wear something appropriate to go to school. For instance, we should have the right to wear skirts or dresses at school but being provocative is not the good way to fight against this inequality. We have to be more intelligent that them. I would mention that I often read that boys or men said things like : "A girl with a skirt distracted boys at school, it's her fault, not theirs" wich is totally crazy because the way that a girl choose to wear herself does not concern boys at all. So yes, sexism is an endless movement but sometimes we have to think the better way to act, before do something stupid.

    Thank you, Bye

    Liouba Tremeau 109

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  4. Hello, happy holidays everyonel!
    As you said, Monday, September 14th, girls had to go to school in "provocative" outfite to feel stronger and send a message. I did not get involved to this protest but I think that was a good idea, because I do not understand how a girl's clothes can constantly be debated and not those of boys ...
    If the clothes is such a source of problems inside the schools, they should impose a uniform for everyone, not just girls.
    Laurine Ristagno

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  5. I think the idea of allowing girls to wear whatever they want is a good one however I don't think that schools are the most approriate places to support this movement: schools are places where people come educate themselves so I think it would be more resectful towards the professors, the staff or even the other students to not wear provocatives outfits. So i would say that supporting this movement would be a good idea but outside of schools and other places where respectful outfits are required. Another problem is that women sometimes get harassed when wearing such dresses so it might be bad to wear them. As for me, I wouldn't get involved in the movement mostly because I am not a woman and even if I was, because I don't support it 100%.

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  6. Hello, the Monday September 14th movement is a new feminist movement that consists in encouraging all girls to dress as they wish. Indeed, in some schools, so-called "provocative" outfits are forbidden. I think that there is no such thing as "provocative" outfits, girls or boys can dress as they want, especially in September when it is still hot we have the right to wear "short" clothes. It is not the clothes that are "provocative", it is rather the way others perceive and look at them that pose an ethical problem.

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  7. Hello,
    I followed the movement on Twitter and I was shocked to learn that a lot of headmasters forbid girls to wear skirts and crop-top because it could distract their classmates.To my mind, it’s a good way to fight sexism but I didn’t feel concerned because in our school, girls don’t seem to have any problems with their outfits.
    Ines Roger T02

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  8. While I do feel that girls (or even boys) should be allowed to wear anything they wish to, there is still a limit that should not be reached. Dressing up as "provocative" is fine but it shouldn't be too indecent. Furthermore, school is a place where people are supposed to learn and I honestly think that it's not that big of a deal to forbid some piece of clothings to girls. I get what message they're trying to send and I do respect it, but as a boy I just can't feel concerned about it. This is also why I wouldn't have gotten involved in the movement if I had heard of it beforehand.

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  9. Hey!

    I remember seeing people talking about this movement on social media but I first thought that there wouldn’t be enough exposure to spread it around, turns out many people became aware of the movement. In my opinion it was a really good idea! It helped us prove people that as girls, we can wear whatever we want, without meaning that we want to flirt with people or anything like that. I would personally have loved to participate in this movement but I had PE this day. Anyway I think that we shouldn’t sexualize women’s bodies because we can see their shoulders, legs or anything and I hope that everyone will be able to understand this in the future.

    Salomé Palau. 101

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  10. Hello,

    I think that this mouvement is a good way to fight sexism, it’s a way for the students to reclaim clothes judged as "provocative" and that they were probably judged in the past for wearing. To me the problem is not the clothes but people sexualizing them. So we should be able to wear whatever we want.

    Secondly I think it’s important to note that boys also came to school, for example, in skirts. Those boys were showing their support to the girls and to an important cause like sexism, it’s important.

    This send us back to the inequalities that girls face in school because of dress code that are way more restrictive for girls than for boys; for exemples in some school girls can’t even have their shoulders showing, when boys can wear shorts and nobody will say anything to them. And those dress codes are often in place so the boys won’t get distracted.

    To me these are unacceptable because it sends the message that even in school girls are supposed to sacrifice their comfort for boys to study, as if girls were responsable for boys’s failure in school.

    Finally I also think that this vision of things is pretty heteronormative.

    Unfortunately I didn’t had a chance to take part in this event because I learned about it once I was already at school.

    Irina Mellaart T01

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    1. Correction:
      Hello,

      I think that this movement is a good way to fight sexism, it’s a way for the students to reclaim clothes judged as "provocative" and that they were probably judged in the past for wearing them. To me the problem is not the clothes but people sexualizing them. So we should be able to wear whatever we want.

      Secondly I think it’s important to note that boys also came to school, for example, in skirts. Those boys were showing their support to the girls and to an important cause like sexism, it’s important.

      This sends us back to the inequalities that girls face in school because of dress codes that are way more restrictive for girls than for boys; for exemples in some school girls can’t even have their shoulders showing, when boys can wear shorts and nobody will say anything to them. And those dress codes are often in place so the boys won’t get distracted.

      To me these are unacceptable because it sends the message that even in school girls are supposed to sacrifice their comfort for boys to study, as if girls were responsible for boys’s failure in school.

      Finally I also think that this vision of things is pretty heteronormative.

      Unfortunately I didn’t have a chance to take part in this event because I learned about it once I was already at school.

      Irina Mellaart T°01

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  11. Hello,
    first of all I can understand why teenage and adult girls want to be allowed to wear whatever they want but I don't actually think that this is the way to show the world how they feel and what think about it. Girls should feel free and be free to wear what they want wherever they want I totally agree with that but as a teenage girl I think that when we go to school we have to dress, talk, and act in a proper way so yes I can relate why schools establish a regulation on how girls AND boys have to dress even if sometimes they are a little extreme and they should be more flexible on the regulation but you can still dress the way you want outside and it's not about provocation or sexualizing clothes or sexism it's about respect. I'm tired of hearing girls complaining about the fact that it's "a shame" that they're not allowed to wear what they want to wear although I am not saying every girl's like that or claims that but that's not true. They should put away their pride and try to understand and to see that dressing, talking and acting properly is a form a respect at school and at work. I am girl and I also see why girls are fed up to hear that it's "disturbing" for other students to see how certain other girls are dressed like, because it's not their fault if some people can't stay polite and respectful towards them. To sum up I would say that I partly agree with this movement it's a good way to show women's strength and independence but at the same time I think they're going a little too far and revolting about the fact that girls can't wear whatever they want at school by wearing "provocative" outfits at school isn't, to me, the best way to affirm what they want because they're making it something it's not really about.

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  12. Hello !

    You have to stop saying that. You have to stop saying that the slightest nipple visible under a t-shirt, a piece of shoulder or a thigh distracts boys at school. It means that boys are animals that can't control themselves when they see a piece of skin, treating us like meat and I don't think that's the image that most boys want to project of themselves. Throughout the ages, women have been striving for the same rights as men. And that's not so that in 2020 nothing will change and we still wonder what women can wear.
    Why does a visible nipple under a woman's shirt shock people and why doesn't a man's nipple shock anyone? Wearing a mini-skirt is not to have "buttocks out". My family says that it's just to provoke, that women wear them to get men's attention. I'm just shocked when I hear that. Even more so when it comes out of a woman's mouth.

    The president says that you have to dress in "republican outfit". But what is a republican outfit? It's not clear. Personally, I'm in favor of the uniform at school, but that if everyone can choose. A clothing does not define a gender and a man can wear a skirt like a woman can wear pants, whatever its length.

    Unfortunately, as I don't like social networks, I learned about the movement too late. But I saw a lot of women who wore short skirts and so on, and I was really very proud.

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    1. CORRECTION:

      **And that's not TO SAY that in 2020 nothing will change and we still wonder what women can wear.
      **It means that boys are animals WHO can't control themselves

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  13. Correction : I don't think that we have to wear "provocatives outfits" to fight against sexism but I think too that this idea could permit to open a debate about "what is a provovative outfit ? " in society.

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  14. Correction:
    Hello,

    I think that this movement is a good way to fight sexism, it’s a way for the students to reclaim clothes judged as "provocative" and that they were probably judged in the past for wearing them. To me the problem is not the clothes but people sexualizing them. So we should be able to wear whatever we want.

    Secondly I think it’s important to note that boys also came to school, for example, in skirts. Those boys were showing their support to the girls and to an important cause like sexism, it’s important.

    This sends us back to the inequalities that girls face in school because of dress codes that are way more restrictive for girls than for boys; for exemples in some school girls can’t even show their shoulder, when boys can wear shorts and nobody will say anything to them. And those dress codes are often in place so the boys won’t get distracted.

    To me these are unacceptable because it sends the message that even in school girls are supposed to sacrifice their comfort for boys to study, as if girls were responsible for boys’s failure in school.

    Finally I also think that this vision of things is pretty heteronormative.

    Unfortunately I didn’t have a chance to take part in this event because I learned about it once I was already at school.

    Irina Mellaart T°01

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  15. I think that this movement was created with the aim of showing that women are free to dress in the way they wish.
    However, I think students can't afford to wear everything they want during class. That is why I do not totally agree with this movement. I think it is important to show that a woman has all the rights and can dress as she envy but some limits are still, for me, to respect.
    Mia Schannes.

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  16. Hello,
    I didn't participate to this movement because I have heard about it several days later, but I think even if I had learned his creation before the 24 september, I would not have participated, I would have dress as usual. Effectively, I never had the intention/the envy to wear an outfit which is not tolerated in school (because it's not my style), so it wouldn't have made sense to wear an outfit "provocative" while I don't feel concerned.
    However, it's good that girls (but also boys) who feel concerned have contributed to this movement, because before being a way of dressing judged "provocative", it's especially a way of expressing one's personality. So, I think girls and boys should not be deprived of their personality to respond to social conveniences and conformism.

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    1. Here is the correction :

      I didn't participate IN this movement because I heard about it MANY days AFTER, but I think even if I had learned ITS creation before the 24 september, I would not have participated, I would have DRESSED as usual. Effectively, I never had the intention/the envy to wear an outfit which is not tolerated in school (because it's not my style), so it wouldn't have made sense to wear an outfit "provocative" while I don't feel concerned.
      However, it's good that girls (but also boys) who feel concerned have contributed to this movement, because FIRST OF ALL, dressing A WAY THAT IS CONSIDERED "provocative", it's especially a way of expressing one's personality. So, I think girls and boys should not be deprived of their personality to respond to social conveniences and conformism.


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